After eavesdropping on 80 Million Germans, 70 Million French, 60 Million Spanish and tens of millions of Americans, the US senate concluded that the NSA should just stop listening to the phone of German chancellor Angela Merkel.
A remarkable conclusion but one drawn by Democratic Senate leader Feinstein. The California senator has argued repeatedly that the NSA's mass collection of Americans' phone records is useful and necessary to protect the nation, and that it is carefully monitored by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court. But reported spying on foreign leaders — and failing to explain such activities to elected officials — is entirely inappropriate, Feinstein said.
Wasn't the purpose of spying agencies that they, uhm, spy. Sort of white spies serving the nation?
Preferably on other nations and with the intent of gaining military, economical and political advantages instead of eavesdropping on their own and befriended citizens? Wasn't that what we all supported when we supported our home equivalent of the NSA?
Did we really expect to reverse roles and become the spied upon threatened by black government spies? #Politics
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Reading that made my skin crawl main because the justification does not take into account that non-Americans have no certain legal recourse when the spying overstepped its bounds.
Oh come on, we all know that if the Americans and the British and the Chinese and the Russians and the French and the Germans are doing the spying thing on foreign shores as well as domestically, then any country in this fragile world we live in who has the technology and the capability are doing too
+Brett Jones Yep. And those who don't have the tech to do it widely, want the tech.
Whenever we dive past GCHQ i can,t help shouting FOUR!!! Out of the window i also tell any one in the car to watch out for the giant golfers
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This story is fishy. The fact is we already know based on previous reports that some of these outraged governments knew spying was going on and had deals with the NSA to exchange data. I think this is a huge distraction. But it's a good point that it is OK to spy on Americans but not OK to spy on other countries' leaders … I am sure if they put a poll asking people questions about it, many don't mind that is the case. It's sad
Rockwell had it right .."somebody's watching me…." yep your friendly NSA
Really as an American ..this crap is embarrassing .
MAD Magazine is just awesome.
Every country does it..just here people love hype
+Darrell Hargett But does EVERY country spy on it's own citizens and ALL of them regardless of whether they have done nothing wrong???? I'm thinking NOT!!!
That's an exaggeration of the facts and I wouldn't bet against it.
+Darrell Hargett I might!!! I really think our government has dug a hole they cannot get out of we used to be the GREATEST Country in the world ….lately not so sure are we REALLY free??
There's no exaggeration, +Darrell Hargett . The data capture perpetrated by the NSA traitors is epic. What's more, most Internet access for both North and South America rolls through the United States before reaching it's final destination – making packet interrogation all but a piece of cake for folks like the NSA courtesy of the American telecoms that own and proctor much of the core systems of the Internet. The telecoms are "gagged" from disclosing much of these facts to the people by these same traitors – national security and all that BS…
Folks forget that the Internet began in the US (DARPA/ARPA) so much of the system and its underpinnings are decidedly American.
Spies will be spies, until they get caught. Who cares. What shocks me is the price of Mad Magazine at "5.99 Cheap!". Last one I bought was "25 cents cheap!"
We have arrived at a point in history where our capability exceeds our imagination. We are massively monitoring people because we can, not because we necessarily want to. I believe that what we decide — or don't decide — to do now may literally determine the fate of humanity. Because if we don't put a stop to it now while we still (perhaps) have the chance, we may never be able to get off this path.
+Joe Repka so you don't care what is happening just your pocketbook REALLY??????
I would agree with 'let spies spy' if it was certain our own (Eur) governments would try to protect their own citizens. Instead they cooperate, share bankaccounts and flight manifestos with the yanks. I don't care if the US exports hard capitalism or builds a policestate for their own citizens. As long as they keep these two things separate.And they don't. So now I want neither.
In the bigger picture, we seem to be moving deeper into a forest where national sovereignty is not valued and governments seem less attached to the values and well-being of their peoples.
Has world politics always been a child of simple power? Must it always be so?
Is national politics managing to isolate itself from the will of the people, even in our most advanced 'democracies'?
Was wondering when someone was going to PEN the Spy vs. Spy moniker to this….. Its just soooo apropos! #nsa #spy #potus
In my book politicians and intelligence officers sharing intelligence of their own country 's citizens are betraying their homeland and should be convicted accordingly.
This should not be about some high power interests but for the good of the people. Politics has lost this mantra a long time ago.
We had a case of the government spying on their own citizens in Switzerland not too long ago. The verdict was clear and the whole involved agency was closed down. I can only imagine what people would say about a foreign even less trustworthy entity doing the same.
If these things happen, government has too much money.
spy vs. spy
it's a mad mad woild
It's not like spies are even good at their jobs..
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/adamcurtis/posts/BUGGER
In fact, by the very nature of spying, they are bound to scoop up as much as they can.
And this means we shouldn't let them!
Good read +Simon B If it wasn't for real, it would have been highly entertaining.